<html><body><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I'm not sure if my message went thru, so am sending it here:</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Applying for a ruling will put them on the spot for sure. I haven't read the ruling yet regarding Pioneer Title's appeal (that was sent to Legislative & Judiciary Committee chairs this morning) but assume that if DOR reaches a conclusion as embodied in this short paragraph when responding to a request for a ruling here, they shoot themselves in the foot on whatever arguments are in the Pioneer ruling. Conversely, if they realize the inconsistencies & try to apply their Pioneer arguments to a new ruling on this request, then this paragraph will have to be backtracked.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Either way it seems they've muddled the potential arguments.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">It would seem that the Board will want to to decide whether to ask for a ruling on this issue & hope for a confirmation embodied in this paragraph. Leaving the Pioneer issue alone for now when talking to DOR? But conversations still must be had with Pioneer & Perkins Coie.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto" style="font-size: 12pt;">My take off the top of my head...</div></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line" dir="auto"><br></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature" style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_MSFontService, -apple-system, Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" dir="auto"><div dir="auto">George</div><div dir="auto">Sent from my mobile phone 206-437-5869</div></div><div dir="auto" id="mail-editor-reference-message-container" class=""><br><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" style="font-size: 11pt;"><strong>From:</strong> Maureen Pfaff <maureen@olypentitle.com><br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, July 21, 2025 3:33:19 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Robin Aberasturi <robin.aberasturi@futuratitle.com>; George <execdirector@washingtonlandtitle.com>; '1 WLTA Legislative Committee' <legislativecommittee1@washingtonlandtitle.com>; Sean Holland <seanholland@att.net><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Legislativecommittee1] Why can't DOR just give a straight answer??<br></div><br>
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That was kind of where my thoughts were heading Robin, if we got a binding ruling saying this
<i>isn't</i> taxable it would seem hard to justify their stance on the recording fees.</div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maureen Pfaff<br>
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